Dr. K is a gift to all the"exotics" who come into her practice. It's not about you. Your comment is about as moronic as coming down on someone for saying horses can be pets, although it might be OK if you keep the horses outside, and then to tell them to get a hobby and job for writing about horses. A 'fellow' exotic pet owner and a bad one. If the people that bring their animals to her are offended, I've never heard them express it.. "In short, get off your high horse and realize that not everyone is out to get you or the various wild animals you hoard in your back bedroom.". Dr. K treats a bleeding Sumo Dragon. Seriously, you’ve studied veterinary technology & you think “exotic pets” doesn’t include the usual rabbits, guinea pigs, & birds? A prairie dog that mysteriously lost its top teeth is examined. Her canines are almost half an inch long. That makes it harder for the general populace to accept exotics the way they accept cats and dogs. If she was truly doing what you have stated, then how the hell would that benefit her or her business in any way? Awful article written by a selfish, ignorant person. Therefore, buying a captive bred fennec in the United States does little or zero harm to the wild populations that are doing well anyway. I am unbelievably overwhelmed by the selfish ignorance in your statement, "Get this, it doesn't need to be 'beneficial' it's just something I feel like doing. I encourage readers to make up their own minds. “At Broward Avian & Exotic Animal Hospital, we treat your pets like the valued family members they are.”. Some people just shouldn't own exotics. She saves their lives? Dr. K's Exotic Animal ER is an American television series on the Nat Geo Wild network. The man is a true asset to his profession and to Floyd county! It'll do us all a favor. You act so offended by her comments but they were actually aimed at making sure random people watching her show do not decide to impulsively buy a lemur. ( this makes me crazy! Exotic pet owners are the reason that Florida's wildlife is critically threatened by the release of Pythons, Anacondas, Boas, Lion fish and the list goes on..I love Dr. K because I've always felt she is supportive, caring, genuine and quite aware of exotics and the issues involved. I've watched this show and don't really care for it. Keeping "wild" animals is fine. If you truly love animals than admire them from afar, don't steal them from their homes. She 'gets it'. I personally do NOT think that it is appropriate/reasonable to have a lemur in a private home. It's a wild few days as Dr. K and company try to keep control of crazy critters. Also I'm getting so much salt from this thread its not even healthy. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on May 29, 2019: Danielle Steadman, I'm not an idiot just because you aren't smart enough to make decisions that align with your personal values. Lol, a vet assistant! Infectious Diseases & Integrative Internal Medicine (Complex Chronic Diseases, Chronic Pain, Stress Reduction) Not everyone could handle a fox or raccoon for examples. This is NOT the exotic animal vet being discussed. Wow, my comment & it's meaning went way over your head. You’ve got nothing better to do? Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on October 11, 2016: Scott Roche: Dr. K is a bird owner herself. You needed to prove a point by dancing around what's really going on: pet owners are being criticized by a self-righteous vet who is categorically wrong. Unfortunately there are many vets like you running rampant; some people excel at taking tests but fail at basic critical thinking. I understand that sometimes honesty can seem hurtful. Back off. Unfortunately, those exotic owners who do provide the proper environment fight an uphill battle because of the ones who fail. The keeping of exotic pets is controversial—in fact, it has suffered so much that now even some of the doctors that we entrust their health care to are against the practice and feel as though they must lampoon buying exotic pets to appear angelic in the face of the public. I was a sensible, compassionate and commons sense pet owner. Dr.K T John specializes in Gastroenterology,Internal Medicine, find address of K T John Their purpose for questioning and cautioning others about owning wild animals as pets is to make sure some idiot like you doesn't go out and drop 10k on a monkey because it seemed like it would be cool with no actual regards to the animal's safety, quality of life, or considering that some of these animals have extremely high social needs and by keeping a monkey in your house you're depriving it of crucial things that can't be replicated in your living room. Question: Are you in the exotic animal trade business? She wants the owners of these animals to understand the huge responsibility and challenge it is to create good conditions for these animals. I currently have to golden conures, what I believe to the most difficult of birds to have. I currently own 2 ferrets and a Big Eyed Treefrog as exotic pets. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on August 03, 2016: Dr. Dickens: I feel sorry for all of your clients whom you most likely ripped off with your pseudo-scientific generalizations. Purchasing a guinea pig from a reputable source is a far cry from purchasing a fox, Lemur, Cobra or Tiger from some very questionable source..Climb down off your soapbox Melissa Smith, your argument is full of holes and your so obviously misinformed about everything that is borders on the ridiculous. How to test for Hashimoto’s… No thanks. I think it would be irresponsible of Dr. K not to address some of these issues. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on June 05, 2016: Even in the interviews she speaks badly of people keeping exotic pets. I'm not sure who you think you are, but your simple feelings shouldn't control mine, and I don't agree with you. Who is Dr. Lauren Thielen? © 2021 Maven Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. And yes. They would look at YOU with the same disdain that I get for having a spotted genet. Dr. K. T. Thomas is a general surgeon in Nashville, Tennessee and is affiliated with Ascension St. Thomas Hospital-West. It was WELL worth it! She does this with extravagantly failed logic which I routinely debunk in my articles, and will also do so here. People are gonna hate no matter what. Do you hear other people here saying Dora and Friends into the City is promoting a model for girls to look different...so that show is completely unethical to have on Nick Jr. Or Spongebob will make your kids stupid. What if suffering is an illusion made by the human mind, to delude themselves causing them to act "compassionate" resulting the expansion of ego that is somehow related with the endocrine system? This blog post is so ridiculous. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on March 01, 2019: Considering many zoos keep kinkajous outdoors in climates where temperatures easily drop to the 60's at night in the summer and lower in the fall, I'm not sure what's wrong with 72 degrees. Theses animals require a dedeicated owner and environment, especially large animals. Perhaps. NO there is not. A baby chicken is missing a wing after an attack and a hedgehog has a bulging eye. I'm essentially told by people who enjoy eating burgers, exotic pet keeping needs justification before it can be approved by them. Dr. K gives a marmoset a checkup. Believing everything you hear on tv or read online as the absolute truth isn't realistic. You are pretty much the last person I'd expect a lecture from. To add information to the above thread, I'd like to make four points: 1, WILD-TYPE or EXOTIC ANIMALS IN CAPTIVITY SUFFER. When someone says they have a compassion to live with exotics, I doubt the exotic feels the same way. The other consists of animal use where there is an attempted standard of humane treatment with the possible exception of essential things like life-saving treatment for humans. Even though their care is relatively straight-forward, many people do not do the minimum for them to live past a year. I think that her and her staff are the type of people that I would take my animals to if I could. “For those of us who have our freedom at stake, this is an important subject. 2 whole years at a community college. Tom Cronenwett was a regular face on Dr. K’s Exotic Animal ER. Your comments are appalling. You have no clue where I or the Dr.K clients' got their pets from. However, Dr. Susan Kelleher, or Dr. K as she is called, has taken her exotic pet criticism to a new, pitiful level. With Josh Goodman, Susan Kelleher, Lauren Thielen, Art Edmonds. It is always recommended to have an outdoor enclosure for "big" (actually medium) sized cats. There's nothing wrong with educating owners but did she tell you your birds don't belong in captivity? Why Isn’t My Brain Working? Hahaha hahaha ah. A growth is found on the leg of a 35-year-old parrot. The disconnect seems to be that providing a suitable living environment (habitat, food/water, stimuli, protection, vet care, etc.) You didn't choose to reply to my reasons why she is wrong, because you can't. A pot-bellied pig throws a temper tantrum while it gets a nail trim. Who exactly do you think you are? Actual owners of venomous reptiles are often aware of the risks. No one on Dr.K did anything remotely close to your ludicrous example. FUCK the owners. Get this, it doesn't need to be 'beneficial' it's just something I feel like doing. A prime example of why anti-exotic pet people are idiots. If it is better for the animal, then you need to realize that and back off. Included: A lemur with a broken toe; a chicken with a prolapsed cloaca; and a guinea pig with an itching problem. I read these irrefutable arguments with an eye to common sense and logic. Dr. K's show is for the purpose of education and awareness. An exotics vet treats animals other than dogs & cats (under the purview of regular small animal vets) or large animals/livestock (under the purview of large animal vets). She should DEFINITLY say those things on tv so that other prospective buyers think twice about taking these beautiful animals from their homes and families. The exotic pets people have are going to be in captivity anyway, so why not make sure they have a good owner, that is what Dr. K wants people to know. Elsewhere, an injured tortoise is treated by Dr. G. Dr. K works to save two Amazon parrots who were attacked by a dog. Very sad that Dr. T is going home to Texas but that where she is from I was born and raised in South Florida so I can guarantee people that Broward Avian and Exotics are the best in the field. As a veterinarian, exotic animals always pertain to animals that aren't dogs and cats. Which is exactly what they what both doctors express in the show. Du kan se programmer fra både DR1, DR2, DR3, DR K, DR Ultra og DR Ramasjang. This even goes for domesticated cats. I do have a few questions for you. I own a few exotic pets but I do believe that they & that most are better off in the wild. I've seen these episodes and I did not take her comments as berating her client. If it had an outdoor enclosure, then by all means, enjoy your pet. This show provides unknown information to those who want to own exotics and those who do. Be sure to call ahead with Dr. I guess that means you shouldn't enjoy your dogs and cats since millions of them are suffering too. Dr. K's staff treat an injured turtle and a dehydrated pig. Dr K said some people are perfect owners of exotics but others shouldn't have. My MD tells me things I need to here too. None of which were present. She is famously known for her cast in her show on National Geographic cables named ‘Dr. Unlike many zoos I'm unafraid to benefit myself with animal use in some unpopular way without trying to claim I'm 'conserving the species' and other BS. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on April 27, 2018: Learn to read, I never said I was a vet assistant, though they and receptionists do important work and deriding them for their salary makes you look like a snob and an a$$wipe. Dogs, cats, fennec foxes, budgies, pot-bellied pigs...there is NO "huge difference". You're being ridiculous, and to be totally honest, it sounds as if you have nothing better to do than criticize a woman and those who work with her. What responsible pet owner would not want to know how to properly care for the pet????????? Also, there are breeders that do not treat their animals well and they contribute to the extinction of these lovely creatures we cherish. YOUR FREEDOM IS NOT AT STAKE. I like when she takes care of the bunnies. There wouldn't be a huge python issue in Florida killing so many birds if pet owners were responsible. This is the worst article I’ve ever written. After all, you wouldn't want some simpleton to give you a bad rep right? A small ferret has a big problem and a feather-plucking cockatoo has an attitude. Answer: The 'black market' trade exists because of demand. You cannot domesticate out of an animal the need for basic welfare, which may or may not be provided by the owner. My belief is, if you know a person or business because you have been there, then you have the right to comment on them or their business. Many things wrong with the evidence gathered. Im sure there would be some other opinionated nimwit on here claiming "Dr. K is promoting the exotic pet trade" had some, or all, of her statements been left out! Twins bring in their impacted tortoise, a beloved fish has swimming trouble, and Dr. T's rabbit is sick. But just get off the computer. If you’ve watched this show at all, you would know Dr. K does support people owning exotic animals, just not all animals. 2. So my comment to the creator of this thread. Dr. K takes care of a Tamarin monkey that gets injured playing with the family dog. That's just your prejudiced view of owners who have animals you don't care to own. Get sneak peeks and free episodes all on Nat Geo TV. *I" think *mine* are fine, so you shouldn't try to save the others by discouraging ownership because then you're inconveniencing *ME*!" You've done the research necessary to make that statement? I don't buy exotic pets and have the audacity to think myself superior to another who does the same because as I own them, I believe I shouldn't. It premiered on October 4, 2014, and follows Susan Kelleher, the titular Dr. K, and the veterinarians and staff of the Broward Avian and Exotic Animal Hospital located in Deerfield Beach, Florida. Here, the breeding meets the demand of fennecs as pets. It sounds as though you need a hobby. Yes. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/loaded-question. No. You're just wasting my time. I was leary of the Dr. K show until I heard her and her staff make the very comme6nts that have so offended you. Do you understand what domestication is? Some people watching the show might be influenced to go out and get an animal that they have no idea how to care for, one who shouldn't be owned by the public, one who is much better off with their own kind in a natural environment. The exotic pet trade is a major contributing factor in many cases to the extinction of species, the destruction and exploitation of many habitats and the suffering of animals around the world. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on November 12, 2015: Creating a fake story, identity, and position is not hyperbole. With two emergencies and two surgeries, it is a busy day at Dr. K's clinic. Dr. K, Dr. T., the other vets and the staff at Exotic Animal ER are heroes to me. If you truly love these animals, donate your time and or money to organizations that are working for the betterment and continuation of these species and their habitats. People should not be able to buy many of these pets and most of the others there should be mandatory training! It's a day of mystery at the clinic when a bearded dragon suffers a peculiar illness. Florida Fish and Wildlife (CC BY-ND 2.0) Via Flickr. Why would I even listen to that request? If it is so difficult to recognize suffering how exactly are you able to mind-read every animal you've seen in your practice? Maybe she’s a little jaded? Furthermore, if you hate exotic pet ownership why the hell would you tell me there's no problem here? When did she state she disapproves of the owners? I provide hand-typed quotes from the show. Wow, what happened to everyone being entitled to their opinions? She makes completely valid points. Or are you going to back peddle and say thats not what you truly meant? A snapping turtle case stumps Dr. K and a hedgehog gives Dr. T the silent treatment. In Dr. T, Lone Star Vet, Dr. T treats all animals in need, from emus to hedgehogs! Dr. T, Lone Star Vet. Having a big cat living in your home is DANGEROUS. Dr. K.T. Snakes living in pull out drawers or aquariums they can't fully stretch out in, and guinea pigs locked up alone with minimal time out of the cage; There are issues with ALL of these exotic animals that are not unique from each other at all. The lady came back in a complained how the wild cat wasnt better. I never got that impression from any of the doctors from that clinic on the show. Is every single wild animal exotic pet owner a neglectful moron? If you're such a competent owner, why do you let such people irritate you so much? We do not fully understand if the 'suffering' suggested by elevated cortisol is like that of unbearable torture or on the level of a stressful day at the office. And, this article is about season 1, the lynx is season 2. to make a better show. there are multiple cases of exotic animals being kept in poor conditions and turning on their owners. Some statements may be scripted to make the ratings better. Exotic animals are NOT cats and dogs and I don't give a rats as if it hurts your feelings to hear that your pet would be happier in the wild, you should have known that if you did the research you had to have done to own the animal in the first place. - Whether humans can or cannot provide a suitable habitat for non-domesticated species is not the point: 99% of the time, we don't. The doctors want the best possible care for all the animals they see, and they know how connected owners are to their pets. Thank you for the heads up so I can avoid your name like the plague if you're ever in my neck of the woods. ". To what pets are you referring? Dr. K's Exotic Animal ER is an American television series on the Nat Geo Wild network. Like my mother taught me, if you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all. She asked who was selling them not who had them. The ER has their hands full with difficult and unusual cases. That has to be the kind of vet you've found to care for your pets- only in it for the money otherwise the last of your many ignorant quotes "exotic pet owners should certainly not tolerate any contributions to anti exotic pet owner sentiment from people they employ to help with pets especially if televised". Dr. T returns to Texas to open her own exotic animal clinic. The series leaves plenty of room for laughs as Dr. Thielen surrounds herself with some eccentric co-workers and some even more eccentric animals.Through it all, though, Dr. T never loses her cool, even when a 40-pound lizard waddles into her clinic. There have been too many kids and even some adults killed or permanently maimed by these large unnatural predators. This content reflects the personal opinions of the author. I love how she's hiding behind her animal. And Dr. K SAYS that. As for the woman with the lynx. I feel even more strongly than Dr K. does about these issues and I admire her for educating her viewers in a calm fashion. Rationality should trump selfish desire. When an animal such as an iguana can be found pretty much anywhere and in most pet stores for $15-100 and are typically sold as little babies so that kids or parents are more inclined to buy this results in them being ill cared for because as the reptile grows to enormous sizes, reaches sexual maturity and gets suddenly aggressive, his enclosure and diet and lightinh becomes more expensive then planned. You guys arfue as id you have nothing better to do like go for a long walk with your pets/ Cook something instead of going to McDonalds/ Excersise/Read a Book/or binge watch a TV series because everyone here.....does not care for what any of you say, they ignore the previous poster and go straight for the author's neck. I’ll wait. "Because its what I feel like doing" is what fuels the pet trade! It is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and should not be substituted for impartial fact or advice in legal, political, or personal matters. Consider a new topic. Sheesh, there is always someone out there complaining and taking things out of context or to the extreme. For those of us who have our freedom at stake, this is an important subject. Also, a gerbil with an abscess and a boa constrictor with a mouth wound. Where does your simpleton 'argument', if it could be called that, come into play here? I mean, really, who are you to decide what is "reasonable." If you don't want to stop commenting I shall help you. A parakeet barely escapes an attack from a cat; A newborn bunny is fighting for its life. Reptiles have some serious issues in captivity. Nothing. Did I say it was? The difference is you don't give a crap about the former. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species has this to say about the fennec fox (Vulpes zerda): “Listed as Least Concern, although there is no detailed information on its abundance, the species is relatively widespread in the sandy deserts and semi-deserts of northern Africa to northern Sinai. [3], The show's Dr. Lauren Thielen received her own Nat Geo Wild show titled Dr. T, Lone Star Vet, which premiered in October 2019. She's right, not everyone is equipped. It seems that ever year, another horrendously draconian ban is placed on a relatively harmless group of animals because of the successful manipulative actions these groups carry out. If she didn't care about the welfare of the animals she treats she would not give her opinions on exotic pet ownership & the pet trade & encourage people to own these pets to as you say to fulfill your "passion" to do so. Nobody needs a Black Mamba or a Gabon Viper. The doctors have their hands full with emergency cases involving a tortoise and a goose. Put Dr.K on for season 5 and 6. I can disagree with someone without having the gall to only see things my way without acknowledging the feelings of my opponent. Anyways, chill out. Stop it with the damn fiction to prove your point. Secondly, I watched the show, and she simply states that she does not condone people keeping lynxes as pets, but that she still wants to give them the best medical care possible. Your definition is not accurate, so I guess that makes you the fool: https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/Understanding-... https://pethelpful.com/exotic-pets/wild-domesticat... https://pethelpful.com/cats/are-cats-domesticated. You sitting on your ass jeering at the tv because you think having a kangaroo should be your god given right is just a LITTLE less impressive as a credential. Melissa A Smith (author) from New York on June 26, 2016: "So, let me "get this"..... to hell with whats right or fair for the animal, as long as YOU are happy right?". In other words, more owners in relation to the total of exotic owners fail than for non-exotics. Your dopey attempt at sarcasm was neither an argument nor 'rational', and me not entertaining your juvenile little attitude doesn't make me close minded. And I think you don't answer me because you have no answer. I would guess that there are a lot of people who are willing to listen to, and who respect her position on pet ownership. I'm not sure why or how you could think keeping big cats or whales in captivity is okay or beneficial in any way, but I guess that just proves how ignorant you are. This statement tells us that not only is the fennec fox wild population highly unlikely to be in trouble, but the ‘pet trade’ they are a part of mainly exists locally in their native region (“exhibition or sale to tourists”). I respect her for that. If you truely love the animal you want to buy , that shouldn't be a problem. Your damn frogs and snakes can come from shady breeders/brokers just as exotics or dogs can. Yes. I have so many problems with people owning exotic animals, and you just added your name to the list. Do you sell exotic pets? You are the type of exotic pet owner/ advocate that rational human beings oppose of and voice their opinions about!!! I have no children and these two birds are my children. Just like I shouldn't have the control to arbitrarily decide to ban every animal, you should not be allowed to make all animals legal just because "well I can and I want to." The first series of Dr. T Lone Star Vet hit our screens back in 2019. A duck is rushed in after being shot; a pig in labor needs immediate attention; and an aging turtle has shell issues. Despite her not agreeing with the keeping of fennec foxes and later on Lynxes in captivity, she still treated the animals to the best of her ability because she cares about the animals.
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